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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:33:00 -
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The thing about lag is that most nodes include multiple systems. If you are dropping 100 drones 1 jump out from Jita on a Saturday then there will be an issue, if you are out in the back end of Minmatar space on Tuesday it wont matter.
That being said, 50 or 60 drones/cans/probes are totally irrelevant as far as lag and as far as decloaking. Drop 2 or 3 hundred and get some of those covops cheaters! They will whine and cry and call the GM's, but it is very unlikely that the GM will take your camp down due to lag. And if they do you can just move somewhere else.
Its important to remember that GM's don't take sides, they don't care who kills who or why, only that the few rules in Eve are maintained. You as the aggressor are not in anyway "wrong" or guilty by default. You are playing the game as designed, the GM's are here to support you as much as the non-aggressor. And they may take some time to explain why your camp is out of place and how to fix that, but you wont be in trouble for setting it up at all.
Best of luck in your hunt. What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:35:00 -
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+1 to Flakey's advice to, just edit out the GM parts of your OP. Soon as an ISD see's the thread it will get locked otherwise. What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:51:00 -
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Yeah the last time this came up 200 objects seemed to be a good starting point, thats enough to actually start decloaking stuff and not so many that lag will be an issue. I can't find that thread, it was a couple months ago.
I have found one of the fastest ways to get debris out is with core probe launchers. 1 every 2 seconds as you orbit the gate and a hold full of them to reload. It has been a while since I have used them so double check to make sure they decloak.
I know it sounds like I am a gate camper, but really I spend a lot more time running them and I have come to think that cloaks are a bit too effective. Debris camps are really the only counter, and as such the only thing that keeps it interesting. What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:57:00 -
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Also 2 guys in fast frigs will really help. when the target first appears they tap it on the OV with the "auto look in the direction of" feature on. Then double click in space wherever their screen centers with MWD on. It takes some practice to get right, but camping leaves plenty of time for practice along with cat gifs and goon jokes. What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
525
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:00:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:flakeys wrote:Yup posting them is against it and i believe but am not 100% sure even discussing it is. Discussing it is still a lockable offence. But from experience it seems CCP pick and choose when they want to implement the rules or not. The only reason they do it by the way is because the GMs seem to give out incorrect information all the time.
Its a good thread though. I have seen a bunch of crappy clueless gate camps lately, any information that will help those guys is important. Hopefully the OP can edit out the GM portion of the thread and get it on track.
What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
525
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:04:00 -
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What do you call a goon gardener? What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
525
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:20:00 -
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Lemok Sonji wrote:...
For one person who has a good computer, good internet connection, and in a back-end system with very little traffic, 500 cans might not even cause a small lag.
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Overloading the grid will cause server side side lag, this is why we have TiDi. And this is the only lag that the GM's will be measuring.
You make a good point though about different end user configurations. It may appear to a player with all their brackets up that a certain grid layout is causing them lag. And it may well be doing that for them. However that is not at all what the GM's are measuring. What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
525
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:35:00 -
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Do you actually read the responses that you get? or just watch the numbers and comment when it seems appropriate? What is gaming when compared to rl? -á http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=V7-1ndsiVNA&feature=endscreen |
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